Don in Tulsa at the
AWEA Group.
"To be honest, success is varied. My desulfator pulser takes
awhile to work, so I use it on batteries that are not highly
sulfated...Given a couple of weeks, it does a fine job of
restoring 80- 90% of the lead back to the plates, while removing
the sulfate crystals. It would take a month or so, to get the
battery back to 100%. That last 10% takes forever...I usually
don't bother with it unless I have no other battery to
desulfated. In other words, my hi- freq pulser runs 24/7 on some
type of battery. I even used it on my 18 volt Ni Cad batteries
for my drill, etc...It cracks the normal Ni- Cad crystals down
for increased performance and no memory. I wouldn't use a new
ni-cad without pulsing....It probably adds between a third or a
half to the battery's reserve and permits higher amperage
discharge. All I can say is that it does work wonders to my
ni-cad powered tools. I plan on experimenting with pulsing
alkalines and recharging them, when I get time.
A strange tale: For the heck of it, I pulsed a spanking new
group 65 starter battery for a friend and recharged it back to
approximately where it was when he brought it over (12.75v).
After resting, I applied a 50 amp load tester to it twice for 10
seconds. The first test removed the surface charge. Even with
the second test, the voltage needle on the meter hardly
deflected....It should have dropped a volt or so, even on a new
battery.
It took a couple of more load tests to get the needle to
substantially deflect. On a good battery, after a heavy load,
the voltage should slowly climb back up as the plates chemically
react and the plate gas dissapates; It takes a minute or so.
That is why, when your starter on your vehicle starts dragging,
for whatever the reason, let the battery rest for a
minute....You'll get that final extra "boost" that will kick it
over fast enough to start and yet still have enough juice left
over to give a hot enough spark to get it to fire up. It's
better than walking or waiting for a jump.
Anyhow, I cannot state why the battery was puting more than a
new battery should, but it did...This battery was acting more
like a much larger Group 31 heavy truck starting battery. Go
figure.
On a real nasty, heavily sulfated battery, whose cells are not
shorted out (rare), I usually use EDTA+....with mixed results, I
may add.
These are the ones that have swollen plates caused by the
sulfate buildup. Normally, when they get this bad, the plastic
seperator gets perforated and the cell shorts out (nobody can
fix it at this stage). This is different from a short caused by
the build up of debris on the floor that reaches up and shorts
the plates out; Dumping out the electrolyte and rinsing out with
distilled while vigorously shaking the battery, then adding
fresh electolte, will sometimes work. It will add muscle mass
and pain to your arms, though.
I have found that most of the time, when the sulfate crystals
are removed and the swelling decreases, some of the cells will
short out. I guess that the damage was already done on the
cell's plastic separators before any desulfation was attempted.
The sulfate crystals, which act as insulators between the
plates, when removed, cause the plates to short. I can always
tell this when desulfating, because as the battery increases in
power during the load tests, all of a sudden when you are
reaching 13+ volts, resting voltage, a hard short will occur.
I've had this happen with the pulser, as well as the EDTA. It
just occurs dramatically more rapidly with the EDTA. Probably 4
out 5 really nasty ones are a waste in time. It doesn't really
matter, since they were destined for the recycler's heap anyhow.
The bottom line is, don't wait until the battery is a basket
case. Catch it early and save it every time. It's nice to have a
starter battery live 8-10 years instead of 24-36 months
(regardless of the warrenty). Deep cycle batteries can live much
longer and give full power, until the plate gives out, instead
of being junked for sulfation.
A great site...The prices are excellent, even considering the
exchange difference between pounds and dollars. I am quite
familiar with the design...Those are basement bargain prices for
an excellent product. I'd buy them and ship them in; They're
worth it, considering the low powered commercial junk out
there...
My recommendation:
I'd order the "High Power" version only. The thermisters are
necessary to keep from cooking the components, since sometimes
runaway current has been a problem with earlier versions of
Alastair Coupers base design.You had to watch the earlier
versions like a hawk to keep from cooking some parts. Since
they are hooked to batteries that are not static (the battery's
stats change as it desulfates), the earler versions of pulsers
could not regulate themselves. The alternative was to detune
them down or regulate them. These are more akin to Farraris
than mass-produced Ford Pintos. If not right on, they blow
themselves up. But then, I'd rather have a Farrari anyday over a
Pinto. You want to pulse a battery in days, not months.
Some easy and very useful changes: I'd definely change out the
lead based battery terminal post clamps for large spring loaded
"jumper" type clamps. I'd also use a much heavier, fine wire
copper cable. 10 AWG minimum; I've seen some guys use 4AWG.
Since a properly designed pulser has a signal spike that has an
extremely fast rise time, the signal tends to act like a
megahertz signal instead of a kilohertz signal. Such high
frequencies, like RF frequencies and unlike DC current, tends to
travel on the outside skin of the cable and not in the interior
of the wires. With small diameter copper cable, which may carry
a heavier DC current at the same voltage, a high frequency RF
signal will severely attenuate itself in the smaller cable. You
can see this loss on a scope by measuring it at the clamps, and
then at the attachment point for the cable on the board. There
is quite a bit of signal loss in the cables, regardless of size.
Keep the cable run very short and the cable size heavy. Your
pulser will be much more powerful, without pushing the unit to
the burnout phase, if you use heavier leads. The easiest cure
to this would be to take a burned out heavy duty (50amp+)
battery charge and clip off 12" of the pos and neg leads and
switch them to the pulser. Or take a set of battery jumper
cables and cut off 12" of the cable with the clamps attached.
Be sure to dismount the clamp from the leads, clean them
scrupously and "Silver" solder them back on. Resin-based low
percentage silver solder is availiable in any Radio Shack or
electronic supply store. Elemental lead is a lousy conductor of
electricity. Silver is about as good a conductor as it gets.
Silver solder has about 5 percent silver and the rest being tin.
It is the only sure way to solder sensitive and demanding
electronic components. By silver soldering the leads to the
clamps, you make sure that there are no choke points for the
pulser's signal. It will erode and dissolve the sulfate crystals
much faster and probably make the unit live longer.
BTW: I used many cable strands of "Litz" wire, bound togather in
heat shrink, to make up about a 10AWG gauge cable and attached
it to HD battery charger clamps. Litz wire is made of of
extremely fine laquered copper wires and are braided togather in
such a manner as to force the RF signal to use the whole wire's
diameter and not just the skin. It's ungodly expensive and used
for internal AM radio reception antennas, etc, where faint
extremely high frequency signals can be carried without
excessive loss. I managed to pick up a mile reel of 20/42 gauge
Litz, off of Ebay, for a rock bottom price. I just kept clipping
off 12" lengths until I had a big enough bundle. The laquer
burns off at soldering temps. The bundle of Litz, transmits my
pulser's signal spike with minimal loss.
And watch out when you connect your leads to a battery. Reverse
polarity WILL instantly smoke your pulser, no exceptions. There
are ways to build in polarity protection, but they drastically
cut down on performance. These custom built units are race cars,
not Pintos; They are not idiot proof...Treat them with the
respect they demand and deserve or watch them smoke.
Guys,
For those based in the UK/ Europe I offer an alternative to the
sites mentioned below by Don. These devices are very much based on
the same original Alistair Couper design.
They do work but are not a magic cure for all battery maladies.
Check out http://www.courtiestown.co.uk
and
I don't have a web page, but you can find some info here:
http://www.flex.com/~kalepa/desulf.htm
http://www.homepower.com/files/desulfator.pdf
http://p198.ezboard.com/bleadacidbatterydesulfation
These are just a few of the sites out there. Just type in
"desulfation" or "desulfator", and tons of sites will come up. I
was overwhelmed by the new additions when I surfed it on the net
this evening.
This is a relatively new science; New plans, kits and assembled
units are coming on the net rapidly. Just do as much research as
possible before investing...caveat emptor. Desulfation is no
longer witchcraft, but it is far from accepted and what you may
end up with, since it is a new enterprise, may be the real
thing, or just window dressing. It's the wild west out there for
now, but desulfator/pulsers are being recognized as a valuable
tool....You can make a safe bet that the battery manufacturers
are crapping in their britches, hoping this won't catch on, but
the genie is out of the bottle now...Soon, even the most
entrenched and unenlightened battery owning troglydite will have
to recognize that desulfation isn't some fairy tale. I, for one,
will be glad that less dead batteries are lying around in
landfills or backyards, or wasting imported oil to recycle them."
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